DODGENEM,Thanks for the heads up,I was refurring to products that are made today,How many people buy something and use it once or twice,Then it goes on permanent display in a fish drawer or box,Because they know better than to try and sell it to someone,as a working or great product...........That company use to advertise in FAMA magazine,They did it for years,Which goes to show you that even in a magazine dedicated to helping advance the hobby,you can sell junk,as long as you pay,someone or some group will try their heads.They are not going to bite the hand that feeds them.All the writers and contributers say one thing,,Yet a product boasts another..That`s why people have so many problems...........